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10th February 2016

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Dunkers and Bards go through to an all WithQuiz WIST final; History Men and Prodigals will contest the A-trophy final for the second year running

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WIST Semi Finals

The Bards of Didsbury beat The Alexandra (Stockport).  Tony reports....

"We enjoyed the company of our friends from Stockport. The quiz itself was highly suited to a Withquiz team, or so I thought.  All of our team played well and there were lots of twos and steals to brighten our evening.  In the end I thought the team going second had the edge and, as the score suggests, it was rather one-sided.  Some very interesting rounds but the connections round at the end was highly exercising to the mind.  Bond Street and Income tax were very clever connections but both teams were up to them with full marks to both sides.  We can now look forward to yet another tussle with the Grand Admiral for the WIST crown."

...and Mike from The Alex....

"Although our defeat ended Stockport's interest in 'Europe' this season (Stexit?) we had an enjoyable evening at the Cricket Club and the quiz was played in a very friendly spirit.  We'd like to blame losing the toss, or the weather, or playing in unfamiliar surroundings for our demise, but the Bards were simply too good for us and they were home-and-dry by half-time.  As is usually the case we did better on the WithQuiz half of the questions, but it would have been difficult to replicate our poor performance in round 1 across the whole quiz.  Hopefully this doesn't come across as sour grapes, as The Bards were more than worthy winners, but the (supposedly) Stockport-style questions just didn't suit us.  Having read the thoughts of other teams I accept we may be in a minority, but we found them somewhat arcane ("full of obscure shite" was another view) and we struggled with the seemingly endless 'what connects/what links/what do...have in common' questions.  Perhaps because it was effectively a tension-free dead rubber we really enjoyed the second half, which contained some well-done themes. The evening finished with a convivial chat about the history of the club, the local area and 'airy bottoms.  We wish the Bards well in the final - they'll take some stopping."

 

Dunkin' Donitz beat The Opsimaths fair and square.  The Opsimaths trailed in the 30-question round and never got back onto level terms.  It was a splendidly friendly affair with Bob providing a firm, clear and amiable performance as QM.  Why is it though that whenever Bob is QMing the Opsimaths seem to lose?  Don't we pay him enough?

Kieran sends in his analysis with some interesting comparisons that touch most of the WithQuiz teams....

"A splendid evening as ever contesting The Opsimaths.  These encounters are always highlights of the season, eagerly anticipated and usually producing something memorable or at least a gripe that rumbles on for months afterwards.  A bit like United v Arsenal used to be.  Without the pizza obviously.  And Roy Keane.

We triumphed this time, which keeps us just leading in our head-to-head matches over the last few seasons.   We have to admit that the paper favoured us but we've had plenty of Wednesday evenings this season when we felt that was not the case.  As one wise sage once put it 'there's no such thing as good or bad questions just ones that you know the answer to and others that you don't.'  Having said that we thought tonight's paper was excellent and an aggregate score of 94 is pretty much on the money for a WIST contest.  Answer of the night undoubtedly came from the Opsi genius who worked out that Bond Street costs £320 in Monopoly.  There were some serious quiz brain cells used up in getting that one.  Über QM Bob helmed the evening with his usual good nature and quiet authority.  He's now officiated at 4 games involving the Opsimaths this season and they've lost three of them - big hint to any home team playing them in the next few weeks and who find themselves short of a question master!

The evening ended with a discussion between Barry, Mike and me about which Premier League clubs the Withquiz teams most resemble. The conclusions were (takes a deep breath and retires to a safe distance):

We're United (despite the fact that two of us bleed sky blue and Martin leans that way).  We used to win it pretty much every year but those days are gone and now every game is a struggle - we still don't have Roy Keane though.

Opsimaths are City.  Been there for ever and never done anything remarkable until the last few seasons when something happened to change them into THE power in the league.

Bards are Chelsea.  Similar to City/Opsis but got there first - and they have the smell of money about them.

Ethel are Arsenal.  Always difficult to beat and always challenging at the top but never quite doing it - up to now at least.

Which leaves the Albert as Leicester.  Mike as Ranieri and Eveline as some sort of Vardy/Mahrez cross.  OK let's not go there and apologies to all concerned.  But they would be very popular league champions.

The Charas are Villa.  Used to be reliable top six contenders but years of under investment and a succession of useless managers, all called Megson, have left them languishing near the bottom seemingly unable to save themselves.

I suppose the History Men could be Spurs - if Spurs had ever won anything or even contended for anything meaningful. 

Which leaves a few to go at.  Who are Everton?  Who is managed by a Pulis or an Allardyce?  And which club even comes close to TMTCH?

The floor, or at least the message board, is yours."


A-Trophy Semi Finals

Albert lost by some way to The Prodigals in their last match before the great Bassett departure (see below).  A humbled Albert team captain, Mike reports:

"The result was fair enough.  The Prodigals were simply better than us on the night.  The questions were fair enough apart from an occasional lapse into the obscure - the link between Paddington Bear and Monopoly - really?  The Paddle was very displeased with us and has called us in for extra training.  He has threatened to leave us and become United's next Manager."

....whilst a victorious Anne-Marie seems mesmerised by the Albert's third player (see the photo she took)


The History Men  beat The Charabancs of Fire to set up another A-trophy final against The Prodigals - just as happened last year.

Ivor reports....

"A reversal of fortune compared with last week.  We had an 8 point lead after Stockport rules and managed to hold on despite our usual last round implosion with the Withquiz format.  As is often the case with our matches against the Charas there was friendly banter descending into raucous insobriety (at least from the Historian’s corner).  We live to defend our cup success last season in the final (with the added bonus of not having to set any questions)."

....whilst the losing Damian has this to say....

"Is Wistquiz just becoming another form of Withquiz?  There seems to be a dearth of Stockport teams actually participating these days or have we just become too good for them?

In any event, The Second Best Team In the History Of Withquiz (formerly known as The Historymen) beat us in yet another close contest in the peace and quiet of an unusually noiseless Red Lion and thus avenged themselves for their equally narrow loss to us in last week's affair.  Although we won the toss we failed to box clever by electing to go second which I think would have been an advantage to us as it was to whoever did so in the first half.  Thus we paid the price by falling behind almost immediately and, although we closed the gap in the second half, we trailed in every round despite narrowing the lead all the time.  Excuses apart, it was a good quiz with the better team just winning out in the end."

Quiz Paper Verdict

This week the questions were set on behalf of WithQuiz by Greg Spiller (of the Ethel Rodin team).

As Kieran says above a 94.0 average aggregate was pretty good for a WIST paper and there were plenty of good brain teasers.  I particularly liked the Arthurian-themed round which gave just the right amount of theme-guidance without making things too obvious.  Less popular were the anti-pope questions which had everybody groaning.  Still all in all a good enjoyable evening's quizzing.

Ivor's verdict?....

"Very interesting questions to test our quizzing abilities (you will be disappointed next week when we are setting) with a fair few tricky ones in the mix.  Both the Catholic and the Protestant Papaphiles were foxed by the mediaeval popes questions.  Our QotW?  The 200 page book on what men know about women.  The Schubert-Schumann mishap in East German stamps was rather unfortunate but the designers would have gotten away with it for most of the population.  It shows a picture of Schumann with a musical score by Schubert in the background.  Perhaps Roddy or James can identify the relevant work (the stamps are on Wikipedia under Schumann’s entry)."

and Damian's....

"Tonight's paper was a feast of themes, pairs, connections and written rounds all well executed and reasonably uncontroversial.  It didn't have the usual Stockport feel to it probably because it was set by Withquizzer Greg which, of course, suited everybody concerned.  We missed out on a few we probably should have got and Yours Truly could well and truly kick himself for not spotting the obvious connection between Henry VIII and Hamlet's Uncle Claudius.  Myself and Ivor in our capacities as the resident 'papists' on our respective teams (honorary in Ivor's case) were well and truly miffed that neither of us managed to spot the connections in any of the papal questions - but we both consoled ourselves that probably nobody else did either, and, that if anyone did, they were obviously just being a smartarse sniff sniff!

QoTW: We plumped for the one about what was unusual about the 200 page book entitled What Men Know About Women?  For some reason we couldn't fathom, this turned out to be Historywoman Anne's favourite question!"

The Question of the Week

This week both the History Men and The Charas go for Round 1 Question 20:

What was unusual about the 200-page book entitled What Men Know About Women, published in 1996?

For the answer to this and all the week's questions click here.

Chatterbox

If you go to the Albert Club monthly Monday quizzes you'll know by now that two of our favourite, and longest serving, quizzers, Mark and Cheryl Bassett from the Prodigals team are leaving these shores for Vienna at the end of this month.  Mark has a new job working with the IAEA protecting us all from a nuclear holocaust (I think).

To say a fond farewell they would like as many of their friends as can make it to join them in the Fletcher Moss a week on Friday (19th) from 8pm onwards.  See you there!