WITHQUIZ

The Withington Pub Quiz League

QUIZBIZ

1st February 2023

Home

WQ Fixtures, Results & Table

WQ Teams

WQ Archive Comments Question papers

Hold the front page - news is just coming through - yes, it's confirmed....The Charas have won....let us all rejoice and take tomorrow off - nothing else matters

...and please note that for next week' s Cup matches Greg Spiller (who is setting on behalf of the Stockport League) will deliver the question papers to each of the 4 venues in person so there is NO NEED TO PICK UP THE PAPER from the Fletcher Moss

Bards beat Ethel Rodin

Albert beat History Men

Opsimaths lost to KFD

Charabancs beat Electric Pigs

"Can't sing & Can't dance" song and dance team hear about the Charas

(R1/Q3)


Bards beat Ethel Rodin

In the end a comfortable victory for the Bards as Ethel takes a tumble

Tony hands down his judgment...

Dennis was our QM tonight and, although he is on a learning curve, he performed the demanding duties of his office very well.  We managed to keep him on the straight and narrow and there were no embarrassing moments from our rookie QM.

Ethel were without James tonight and so I was designated rapporteur for the evening.  It was an interesting paper which took us through many far off lands and strange oriental names, and gave us a very evenly matched quiz until Round 8.  The score after Round 2 was 8-8, after Round 3 it was 12-12, after Round 4 it was 16-16 and Round 5, 21-21.  In the Run-on Round Robin and Jim managed a couple of two's so we gained a slight lead.  We managed a couple more twos in Round 7 against Greg's two for knowing that Taft also served as Chief Justice.  In the final round we scored 3 twos and a bonus  to run out winners of that round 10-2 and thus win the match.


Manchester Uni's royal dresser's model

(R2/Q4)


Bard John adds...

When these 2 teams met at the Ladybarn Club in December it was a close affair with Ethel stealing victory on the last question.

Last night’s contest looked to be heading for a similarly tight ending with the scores level at half time.  However, in the second half, inspired by Tony’s half time pep talk (a mixture of Churchill, Sir Alex and David Brent) the Bards moved into overdrive and romped home by 11 points.  In truth, the scoreline did not reflect a tight contest which only swung the way of the Bards in the last two rounds.  Ethel were dogged opponents with Greg scoring an impressive 5 two pointers by my count.  In the end, their in-depth knowledge of foreign language films, Alanis Morrisette and marsupial faeces gave the Bards the advantage.

QM Dennis coped manfully with a wordy set of questions and some tricky pronunciations in a quiz which didn’t end until 10.45. 

Next week, we’re 'up for the cup' with a match against local rivals, The History Men, in the Parrswood Classico - a local derby which makes the Old Firm game look like a vicar’s tea party!


Soap opera

(R6/Q2)


Albert beat History Men

Albert bounce back after last week's drubbing

Mike O'B is thrilled...

First of all, I must announce thrilling news. When I got home last night I learnt that I had won the Turner Prize for my life-sized statue of Boris Johnson carved from wombat cubed turds.  It is a very tactile substance although a bit whiffy. Apparently, Chris Ofili is very envious and feels he has wasted his best years chucking elephant dung at walls.  It's just amazing, therefore, that there was a question about wombat crap on last night's paper - and so this is my favourite question of the night.

For some reason we were moved to a different part of The Didsbury where the benches were so high that some of our group complained  that their feet could not touch the floor.


Toy inventor discovers electricity by accident

(R7/Q6)


Ivor 'All or Nothing' Cartmill sums up...

Never let it be said that the Historymen are Laodiceans (how’s that for a highbrow cultural reference?).   We are either very hot (a 12 point victory last week) or very cold (a 12 point defeat tonight).  Not for us KFD’s four victories this season to date (four!) by a single point as well as a tie.  If this happened to the Historymen we would need to travel with photo finish equipment and probably a defibrillator as well.  Not to mention extra rounds (drinks not questions) to steady the nerves. 


Manchester Uni's Marathon woman

(R2/Q6)


We won the toss and batted first.  As is usual we were ahead after two rounds but then the game drifted away.  Though some of this was accounted for by the 6 to 2 split in the allocation of the unanswereds, the main cause was Albert’s superior two rate (16 to our 10).  It was notable that the younger players for the Albert (Stephen and Ashton) got 6 twos each, as did Our Vanessa.  This is first time Vanessa has scored 6 twos in a game and it is not often that one’s individual success is overshadowed by a terrible team performance.  We Oldies in Seats 3 and 4 (Jeremy, Anne, Eveline and me) were somewhat adrift.  Even Anne in Seat 4 ('the seat that always gets the easy questions') could only muster a single two.  We did wonder if this was due to our ageing brains, or if it merely reflects the fact that we have not learnt much in the third millennium ("haven’t seen an art house film since 2003", “never heard of these American caterwauling musicians”, “economic political science is not a proper science”).  Our only consolation is that we are still likely to qualify for 'Europe' next season barring a Herculean effort by the Charabancs in their remaining matches. 


Spread-spectrum and

frequency-hopping Delilah

(R7/Q1)


Despite our poor result we did enjoy the quiz.  We had to play in the main bar competing with Muzak and background chatter as well as the mutterings of colleagues.  Anne insisted I was only allowed to ask for the question to be repeated a maximum of three times (that’s three times in the entire quiz - a bit like appeals reviews in cricket).  Mike O’B in the QM chair is not stentorian but he tempers authority with compassion (I am sounding like Meghan Markle now) and so this rule was broken several times (mainly because I couldn’t believe the question being asked). 


...whose Who's companion

(R2/Q1)


Opsimaths lost to KFD

Just when defeat was beckoning KFD find that extra zip

Kieran feels good...

This was good.  This felt like a return to seasons not that far in the past when matches between the Opsis and whatever we were called at the time were always nip and tuck right up to the end and frequently decided the destination of the title.  The Opsis fielded their multi-title-winning line up from back in the day and we put up our classic foursome.  Except, and I'm getting almost as bored repeating, as you must be reading, that yet again our man doing balloons in his personal Faraday cage was the reason we left West Didsbury with two points.  Sure Martin and I got our acts together in the last two or three rounds and helped out but Barry, or 'Jos Buttler on one' as we now think of him, had kept us in the game until the cavalry appeared at the top of the hill at the start of Round 6.   


Hirst's seaside Verity

(R3/Q7)


Okay the maps round was a gift to our geographer in chief; the rest of us simply handed the pictures over to him as they arrived and let him do his thing.  That's just an easy pull through mid wicket for the master blaster.  But he dredged up Superman from God knows where and then convinced us that the Prodigals were cute enough to set a question to which the answer was Superman and Superman...and as for that balloon Faraday, with the whole panoply of SI endowed physicists to go at...we'd just about ruled out Newton for being too early and were toying with Joule...and then Barry had a half remembered inkling and when he's on this sort of form you'd be crazy to ignore any suggestion from him.


Manchester Uni's Bang flopper

(R2/Q7)


So we're tied with the Prodigals at the top of the table though we're light years behind on points difference.  It's starting to look like a two-horse race, and that maybe our match four weeks from now will decide the title.  But we have the Charas before then and also the Albert who aren't out of it yet.  And next week the Prodigals come like pillaging Vikings to Heaton Mersey yet again, this time in the WIST semi final.  It'll have as much bearing on the League title as City beating Arsenal last Friday will, but we'll try our best to end our four or five year losing streak.  Don't quite see Barry as Nathan Aké somehow; he's much more Erling Haaland Marcus Rashford (just this one time Baz, just once, because you earned it tonight).  

And Bob will be back next week - hope he brings a bottle. 


Muir's seaside bear

(R3/Q8)


..and Mike from the former champions adds this...

Flattery and deception are the key words for me.  KFD deceive to flatter and the Opsis do the opposite - at least this season.  KFD were trailing for much of the match - at one point by as much as 6 points (I think) but in their inimitable way they powered back to pip us at the close.  They just keep winning the matches that go to the wire.  In contrast we do the opposite and blow it at the end.  In straight 'mastery of knowledge' terms we are very well matched; it's just that extra piece of quizzing guile that lets us down.

So, it was a very jolly affair this week presided over by Hilary as an impeccable QM.  When Hilary's in charge everything's sunny and she certainly brightened up our evening.  Her highlight turn was to deliver the rubric at the start of a round and then turn to quizzer number one (it happened to be Howell last night) demanding an answer.  "Well what's the question?", replied Howell.  "I've just told you", replied Hilary.  "No, you haven't", said Howell, "you've just told me what the round's about!  What's the first question?".  "Whoops!" said Hilary.


David's finishing feast

(R8/Q7)


My own post match chat was all about music and politics.  Music with Martin who had kindly saved up an excellent recommendation for me (after all these years he's well tuned into my musical tastes) - it was Herbert Howells' Hymnus Paradisi (thanks, Martin - I had a listen when I got home last night).  In return I was able to pass on my new-found liking for the music of Janelle Monàe.  As for politics I think it's fair to say Barry and Kieran are no great fans of Keir Starmer and the current Labour regime.  I understand - my own family have grave misgivings - but how on earth - democratically - are we going to get rid of this current bunch of crooks, incompetents and wombat turds?

And finally a shout out for KFD's David who spent a number of weeks last autumn slogging his way through 500 miles of Northern Spain on the Camino as part of his close season WithQuiz training, only to miss out when the first Camino question of the season's quiz papers came up (R8/Q7).


The Window of 'same old, same old'

(R3/Q3)


Charabancs beat Electric Pigs

At last!  Everyone rejoices as the Charas rejoin the hunt

The Blessed Damian is full of joy...

Yes, The Blessed Sam (Mr Beckett that is) finally smiled on us and made us fail so well that we actually managed a win for the first time this season (other than in a pre-Christmas Stockport fixture against a 3-man team)!  Maybe I just dreamed it?  Nope!  Been pinching myself black and blue but still haven't woken up so it must be true!

From initially being a team member short and so forced to go cap in hand to the Prodigals for a QM, I suddenly found myself with a glut of players eager to turn the tide for their beleaguered team.  Graham even cancelled his holiday in the Caribbean, and Bernard flew straight in from Benidorm (well straightish).  So they shared quizzing duties, swapping places at half-time.  Our former captain Gerry answered my distress call and dashed in from the wilds of Stockport to come to the aid of his old team mates.  It was a heart-warming experience and made for a truly memorable evening!  Nevertheless it was a close run thing.  We trailed the Pigs for almost the whole quiz but gradually snuck up on them round by round until finally we squeezed ahead in R7 and held on throughout R8. 

Unfortunate 'Blurter of the Week' was Piggy Mike (apologies if I got his name wrong) who blurted "The Floss on the Mill" instead of "The Mill on the Floss" in the round with answers containing the letters 'ill'.  Had he got it the right way round we would have ended up with a draw.  Hey, ho!


The Law of diminishing returns

(R3/Q4)


Quiz paper set by...

...The Prodigals

Average Aggregate score 77.5


I met Anne-Marie on Monday and she grimaced at me saying she feared the paper they had set this week was far too hard.  Not at all!  The average aggregate was almost spot on the season's average and the diversity and interest factors of the question subjects seemed pretty high to me (even though - judging from his comments below - I don't think Tony agrees with this verdict, but there we are).

At the Club Barry and I found the Pictures Round particularly well thought out.  At half time debating this round had us comparing the merits of the daily internet-based 'map challenge games', Worldle and Globle.  If you haven't tried them on your phone, give them a whirl.  Ethel's James put me onto Worldle a few months back - and Barry swears by Globle.  Whatever, both daily mental exercises help to spotlight what Barry and I agree is an area of knowledge that is in woeful decline.  As youngsters we both had maps of the world on our bedroom walls and could identify every land on the globe as well as knowing in quite some detail the places and subdivisions of Great Britain.  In contrast a quartet of grinning imbeciles from University College Oxford on University Challenge earlier this week laughed sneeringly at the thought that any of them might be expected to know the identity of a trio of well described Scottish counties.  What's the point of being a clever clogs on nuclear physics (say) if you don't know the first thing about the place you come from and therefore by extension who you are?  Rant over.


Lance the Detectorist

(R2/Q8)


...so what were Tony's views?...

Not the most interesting of quizzes with a tad too much on matters geographical and oriental.  The question "Which European Empire leased Shantung?" rather telegraphed the answer, but, having said that, it was no curate's egg of a quiz.


...and Mike O'B's views?...

The paper was well received in general and contained some interesting variations including the round of alliterative film titles.  The high aggregate score suggests that both teams found the paper accessible, especially Stephen who scored 6 twos as well as several assists. 


...and Ivor's views...

A proper pot pourri of questions and themes.  Young David was in his element with the country outlines and East Asian questions.  If only he could have had all of them as an individual we might have got closer to a win.

The highbrow/lowbrow round was a great twist on the 'Run-on' style.  How many of us confessed to knowing the lowbrow but struggled on the highbrow?  My favourite question of the evening was the dress designer of Princess Catherine’s wedding dress - which is the only fashion question I have ever known the answer to.  Sarah Burton was an alumna of Withington Girls School before her meteoric career with Alexander McQueen.


Left back Blue

(R8/Q5)


...and finally Damian's concluding verdict...

Although clearly well put together with a map picture round thrown in for good measure we found tonight's paper a bit of a toughie.  I counted 15 unanswereds which split almost equally (8 to us, 7 to the Pigs).  Many of our answers were guesses, lucky or otherwise, and a great deal of conferring was required by both teams which made proceedings drag on until quite late

We particularly enjoyed the Run-ons (sorry Mike but we just like them), the geography map round and the final 'a bit ill' round. Fortunately we finished just in time for last orders and managed the rare experience (nowadays) of buying a round for our gallant opponents. Now that's an experience we can happily relive a few more times before the season ends. 


Down under droppings

(R3/Q5)


Question of the Week

This week the vote goes to Round 3 Question 5 which certainly sourced a few guffaws at the Albert Club match.  The question went to KFD who in their typically well-drilled way deferred to Barry.  Over the decades that KFD have been playing this quiz thing they have developed strict understandings as to which team member is to be the most trusted on every one of the thousands of categories of questions that come up.  Barry knows about sewers it seems (indeed some refer to him as 'The Turd Man') and so it was that this question fell into his lap with all the other 7 quizzing pairs of eyes fixed on him.  "Koala" he spake with some degree of authority.  Oh no, Barry, your down under droppings knowledge is at fault.  However over in the Opsimaths camp a grinning Nick (our 'go-to' cube-shaped droppings guru) slamdunked the right answer and sat back flushed with success.

Oh yes, and here's the question in question...

Which marsupial produces 100 cube-shaped turds on the average day?

For the answer to this and all the week's other questions click here.

But that is not all...

In an unusual departure this week there is another QotW to herald.  This time Round 2 Spare 2 which celebrated one of the greatest alumni of the University of Manchester.  Forget Steve Coogan, forget Ludwig Wittgenstein, forget James Chadwick, forget even Anna Ford (though I'd rather not), we give you a scientist who simply saves the world every day he goes to work.  Schooled at Manchester University, finished off by WithQuiz and put to work in Vienna, I give you.....(see here in the Fr Megson column for more details) - and the question...

Formally of this parish, this expert in nuclear power graduated with  a degree in Physics in 1980 from the University of Manchester.  He is currently residing in Vienna and working ridiculously long hours saving the world from nuclear destruction. Who is he?

...surely that's worth a pint, Mark, next time you're passing this way?


WithQuiz saves the world

(R2/Sp2)


...and also

Next week we leave the League competition alone for a week and play the WIST/Lowly Grail  Cup semi finals.  Since the 2 Albert Club teams are both scheduled to be playing their Cup matches away against the 2 Griffin teams, Damian and I have agreed to switch the venue of the Charas v Opsis match from the Griffin to the Albert Club.

What's more I understand Smart Alex (in the guise of Greg Spiller) have offered to compile the paper on behalf of the Stockport League  so it should be a cracker (no pressure then, Greg!). 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Last week I forgot to mention the outcome of the Countdown Champion of Champions final featuring our good friend James Haughton.

James was the runner up - but only after an epic tussle which saw him behind, then in front, and finally pipped by the Countdown Conundrum.

A brilliant performance all round and no shame  in being widely recognised as the second best Countdown Champion of modern times.  Well done James!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Finally, like a number of you I guess, I received a flyer from Mastermind seeking contestants for the next competition.  Here's the email message followed by the flyer...

Hi there! 

BBC Two’s Mastermind is currently scouring the UK to find contenders for the next series! 

To apply, please click: https://eu.castitreach.com/ag/hattrick

/mastermind21/welcome.html, or email mastermind.hth@hattrick.com (the application takes just 10 minutes to complete). 

Entry is open to UK residents (including Channel Islands & the Isle of Man) who are aged 18+. 

Stephen Parker, Casting Researcher,

E: StephenP.HTH@hattrick.com 

What's more, a little birdie tells me one of our number might be taking part!